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Hi,

Today I used iptv66 for the first time (Kodi with NFPS Stalker Client). I made the donation I received the email within 1 minute and I made the setup within less than 15 minutes.

As soon as I started using I was impressed by the the epg guide and how quicky you can switch between channels.

However I'm a bit dissapoined due to the poor image quality because most of the channels are 360p. Is it always like that?

Thank you
 
#3
Sandiver said:
some channels are better than others and sometimes a crappy channel gets better and a better channel gets crappier.

just curious how do you know the channels are 360p?
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I can't certify if it's 360p, but I have seen plenty of 480p videos (not only youtube but also another iptv provider that I have right now) and the quality of many of the channels of iptv66 is considerable worst... hence I suppose it must be 360p (or maybe something between 360p and 480p).


To be honest I was really impressed with how quickly you can switch between channels and the epg guide, but the quality of the image is a big downside. Let's see if they can, try and decide to improve the quality soon
 
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tito1982 said:
Hi,

Today I used iptv66 for the first time (Kodi with NFPS Stalker Client). I made the donation I received the email within 1 minute and I made the setup within less than 15 minutes.

As soon as I started using I was impressed by the the epg guide and how quicky you can switch between channels.

However I'm a bit dissapoined due to the poor image quality because most of the channels are 360p. Is it always like that?

Thank you
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Most UK channels are currently set at 544x576, and most of the USA Channels are currently set at 720x480, there are a couple that are at either true 720 or 1080, and some of the ones in the past that were previously at 1080 (Indian channels) have dropped down to 720.

At one time all USA channels were at 1024x576, that was pretty good resolution, and may come back soon enough or something better once they have all there security issues worked out.

As TVFan said If ever someone wants to actually see what the screen resolution of a particular channel is in Kodi, all you have to do is press the letter "O".
 
#8
thegame15 said:
Most UK channels are currently set at 544x576, and most of the USA Channels are currently set at 720x480, there are a couple that are at either true 720 or 1080, and some of the ones in the past that were previously at 1080 (Indian channels) have dropped down to 720.

At one time all USA channels were at 1024x576, that was pretty good resolution, and may come back soon enough or something better once they have all there security issues worked out.

As TVFan said If ever someone wants to actually see what the screen resolution of a particular channel is in Kodi, all you have to do is press the letter "O".
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I just read your comment and I tried two USA channels and made screenshots.

This screenshot is related to an USA channel, which resolution is indeed 720x480, (480p with 3:2 ratio): http://i.imgur.com/MgVwddK.jpg

This screenshot belongs to 704x576 which is suppose to be even better than 480p: http://i.imgur.com/WmSgsrl.jpg

I'm probably not the only one who thinks that despite how much the reescalate the video. The quality of the image is more similar to a real 360p than a real 480p...
 
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tito1982 said:
I just read your comment and I tried two USA channels and made screenshots.

This screenshot is related to an USA channel, which resolution is indeed 720x480, (480p with 3:2 ratio): http://i.imgur.com/MgVwddK.jpg

This screenshot belongs to 704x576 which is suppose to be even better than 480p: http://i.imgur.com/WmSgsrl.jpg

I'm probably not the only one who thinks that despite how much the reescalate the video. The quality of the image is more similar to a real 360p than a real 480p...
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Now your mixing NTSC vs PAL video resolutions. They will always differ as the Frames per second are totally different. The other thing to take into consideration is what the source channel is actually displaying, an SD feed down sampled or HD feed down sampled. As I said in the past most channels were at a resolution of 1024x576 (Higher than SD but not quite HD (Micro HD)).

As for what your saying the video is as strong as your connection, you have 1 USA video at 0.83MB if you were at a higher like over 1.15MB you would greatly see a difference in picture.

If you were around during the free trial the quality of video was higher, and the output was at least 2.00MB, many things have changed since then and I'm sure they've been testing things out (a year). There have been at least 3 different resolutions used from the top of my head. Things will likely change over the new few weeks, but that is no guarantee. Just enjoy what you have and the ride that it entails.
 
#10
some channels are 360p mostly uk they switched many US and other channels switched from 1024x576p to 640x360p to 720x480i that's why many devices/players show artifacts. the reason is noted as above nearly all channels only take up 0.8Mbit. interlacing is a clever way to cut the bandwidth in half while retaining nearly same quality (if displayed correctly). i made another thread about it, and how you can improve it if your box supports the setting. http://iptvtalk.net/showthread.php?13108-dont-fancy-interlace-flickering some channels fall out of these two main resolutions as said, and has all kinds of different resolutions..

and yeah you can press 'o', or grab a piece of the stream and load it in mediainfo, a well known program that many use to report back on streams that does not play correctly in kodi and other players. that's the only way to see if its interlaced and all the properties, or well if you know the caveats its easy to see too, especially if the device tries to deinterlace it with a poor method like weave (shows lines or 'shadows').

the correct way for the box is obviously to play it interlaced and let the rest be up to the tv, not all devices can do this and it also has caveats such as flickering most noticeable with certain patterns, which leads me to the next paragraf.. zzZZZz

lcd tv's is also a factor if the signal is played interlaced, most tv's nowadays has functions to better this too. remember back in the days all the fuss about shadows on lcd screen esp. with football and stuff, back then nearly every signal was interlaced (i dont know about US but this was a big issue in Europe) nowadays most broadcasters use 720p or 1080i, progressive is of cause preferable, but as said interlace is a clever way for them to basically cut the bandwidth in half while retaining quality if displayed correctly and that is really only a issue with old lcd's screens nowadays. basically the signal will have to be deinterlaced at some point, unless using a plasma or old tube screen. highend lcd's mimicks this good also.

so lets hope we will at least see 1080i on the popular channels too.

i expect mag or avov boxes displays the signal correct btw.. and users with kodi on android will benefit upgrading to latest version, medicodec (surface) has been greatly improved over the old libstagefright 'hack' that is now gone.
 
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I dont want to make this a discussion about technical descriptions about resoutions, how strong or weak my internet connections is, etcetera.

My screenshots show that even if the resolution is 480p the quality of the image is very poor. I don't think anyone could deny that.

To be honest I wasn't expecting it to have very good image quality but I wasnt expecting it to be worst than the one of other iptv services.

Maybe today their servers were overloaded or maybe its just because there is too many people cloning macs, I don't know... but Im sure its not a problem caused by the users hardware or internet connecion.

Anyway, I just made the post to mention things I liked and things I didn't like I on my first day of use. I thought it would help users that never tried the service to get an idea of what they can expect.

I also posted to know if today was bad day in terms of quality image or its always like that.

I know how much I paid so I can't expect it to be as good as 720 YouTube video, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't express if we feel the image quality is subpar :)
 
#12
@tuxen the post that you opened, although its too technical is interesting. Howver I think that when the user has to try to fix then there is a clear problem..

Just hope that oncd they change the secuirty the quality increase.
 
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tito1982 said:
@tuxen the post that you opened, although its too technical is interesting. Howver I think that when the user has to try to fix then there is a clear problem..

Just hope that oncd they change the secuirty the quality increase.
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the thread i linked is short(er) lol and meant as a how to actually help with the issues if using kodi. :)
 
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tito1982 said:
I dont want to make this a discussion about technical descriptions about resoutions, how strong or weak my internet connections is, etcetera.

My screenshots show that even if the resolution is 480p the quality of the image is very poor. I don't think anyone could deny that.

To be honest I wasn't expecting it to have very good image quality but I wasnt expecting it to be worst than the one of other iptv services.

Maybe today their servers were overloaded or maybe its just because there is too many people cloning macs, I don't know... but Im sure its not a problem caused by the users hardware or internet connecion.

Anyway, I just made the post to mention things I liked and things I didn't like I on my first day of use. I thought it would help users that never tried the service to get an idea of what they can expect.

I also posted to know if today was bad day in terms of quality image or its always like that.

I know how much I paid so I can't expect it to be as good as 720 YouTube video, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't express if we feel the image quality is subpar :)
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i know the post kinda evolved to nerd talk, but basically it could be your box doing a bad job deinterlacing to 480p. i did post some pointers one is the thread i linked to which explains how to see if your box can deinterlace it better. the other tip is upgrading to kodi 16 because they use new decoding accelerators called mediacodec as opposed to previous versions that use libstagefright which is very old and started as a hack.

the channels look terrible with kodi 15 on my fire tv and the other android device i have compared to lastest kodi versions plus the deinterlacing method i linked to that i found looked better, i expect the same for at least some other ppl depending on their box's gpu. if you are on windows it comes down to you gfx card and direct-x, kodi should be updated at some of the same points for windows, so the same tips wont hurt to try.

the quality is not super no but its not terrible either if watched on the right device/player.
my picture looks very far from the screenshots you posted except maybe a very few odd channels, and its on a 55" tv.
 
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tito1982 said:
I dont want to make this a discussion about technical descriptions about resoutions, how strong or weak my internet connections is, etcetera.

My screenshots show that even if the resolution is 480p the quality of the image is very poor. I don't think anyone could deny that.

To be honest I wasn't expecting it to have very good image quality but I wasnt expecting it to be worst than the one of other iptv services.

Maybe today their servers were overloaded or maybe its just because there is too many people cloning macs, I don't know... but Im sure its not a problem caused by the users hardware or internet connecion.

Anyway, I just made the post to mention things I liked and things I didn't like I on my first day of use. I thought it would help users that never tried the service to get an idea of what they can expect.

I also posted to know if today was bad day in terms of quality image or its always like that.

I know how much I paid so I can't expect it to be as good as 720 YouTube video, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't express if we feel the image quality is subpar :)
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No one is denying that the current quality is low, but also keep in mind that this service was never intended for use with Kodi, some kind developers are the ones that made it happen. Also the service could go to the 720/1080p if they choose to do so in the future.



tito1982 said:
@tuxen the post that you opened, although its too technical is interesting. Howver I think that when the user has to try to fix then there is a clear problem..

Just hope that oncd they change the secuirty the quality increase.
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That is what everyone is hoping for :)
 
#20
The quality really sucks guys, no offense but there's others out there same everything and 90% channels are HD. We paid for the service so your aim should be to better the service, not stick it to us. I only keep this sub as it has A few Caribbean channels but trust me you need to get better servers and provide some more HD content.
 
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