NFPS / Private iptv reliability
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IPTV Private Server (NFPS)
dont know if anyone said it, but I feel its only fair since none of the providers tell you before you sign up. the streams get cut off after 2 hours of watching the same channel and you either need to restart it or switch to another channel and back. it means you will have to remember that and adapt your viewing at certain times when watching. other than that the service is good for the money, I never had any trouble with it, the two times I had to do changes for security reasons went very smooth and I was prepared both times because it was announced here in good time. and if the above is not a issue for you I can nothing but recommend it.
I think it is a bit unfair to categorize anyone that complains as 'whiners', 'lazy', etc just because they voice their negative experience with IPTV. Nor is it fair to keep applying the lame "For the money, it's very good" kind of justification for putting up with the flaky service.
In the original announcement or follow-on clarifications by NFPS or staff for the new IPTV service, the phrase "no freezing" (or similar) was used. If that were true, then yes, I agree it would be a good deal for the money. But, it ain't.
Yes, the FTA and IPTV game requires some troubleshooting ability and willingness to keep up with changes and modifications to the service and the installation in the various devices able to run the service.
However, you do have to draw a line somewhere on reasonable reliability and useability delivery of what you pay for, regardless of cost. Forcing customers to reset their device after 2 hours, or 8 hours, or 24 hours is not what anyone in this day and age of digital media delivery should have to expect. And, it is not unreasonable to assign the blame to NFPS themselves for that, having, IMO, greatly oversold the system and did not, apparently, account for the scaling needed.
So, from my POV, the complaints about freezing, buffering, and general unreliability are entirely justified, regardless of cost. But, we continue to get the 'whiners need to suck it up' attitude from most all the forum staff, IPTV box sales entities, and others with a financial dog in the fight.
Unfortunately, NFPS and those that depend on its core content and server services are pretty much the only game in town that is so readily available. While there are other services, the really reliable ones have far fewer channels, and cost almost as much as a low end cable sub per month. I haven't looked at those resources in depth so may have missed something.
Anyway, NFPS went for the money shot, not the reliability shot and that is what we are suffering from today. Again, my opinion, coming from 20 years of FTA and now IPTV...such as it is.
Monty
In the original announcement or follow-on clarifications by NFPS or staff for the new IPTV service, the phrase "no freezing" (or similar) was used. If that were true, then yes, I agree it would be a good deal for the money. But, it ain't.
Yes, the FTA and IPTV game requires some troubleshooting ability and willingness to keep up with changes and modifications to the service and the installation in the various devices able to run the service.
However, you do have to draw a line somewhere on reasonable reliability and useability delivery of what you pay for, regardless of cost. Forcing customers to reset their device after 2 hours, or 8 hours, or 24 hours is not what anyone in this day and age of digital media delivery should have to expect. And, it is not unreasonable to assign the blame to NFPS themselves for that, having, IMO, greatly oversold the system and did not, apparently, account for the scaling needed.
So, from my POV, the complaints about freezing, buffering, and general unreliability are entirely justified, regardless of cost. But, we continue to get the 'whiners need to suck it up' attitude from most all the forum staff, IPTV box sales entities, and others with a financial dog in the fight.
Unfortunately, NFPS and those that depend on its core content and server services are pretty much the only game in town that is so readily available. While there are other services, the really reliable ones have far fewer channels, and cost almost as much as a low end cable sub per month. I haven't looked at those resources in depth so may have missed something.
Anyway, NFPS went for the money shot, not the reliability shot and that is what we are suffering from today. Again, my opinion, coming from 20 years of FTA and now IPTV...such as it is.
Monty
I agree Monty but you also should realize there are literally 1000's of people who use this service and yes there is some freezing but nothing that makes it so you can't watch tv. With that amount of people using this service the forums would be flooded with complaints if it froze and buffered as much as some people say... I tested another iptv provider over the weekend and it worked great but they had the same complaints from some members that it froze all the time. What both services have in common with the freezing and buffering complaints? It's prime time Internet use when everyone is on it... So there really is something to say about ISP provider issues during peak times and freezing.
Also unfortunately many iptv providers do have to do a time limit or people will re-stream or leave there box on non stop even when they aren't watching it... My parents live down south and there cable is from a legit iptv cable provider and it will time out after a certain amount of hours. That saves them bandwidth from again in people who forget to turn off there boxes. So if actual iptv providers are doing it then I don't see an issue with nfps doing it. It's called Prims TV and they do time out your box so yes there are actual legit cable TV providers doing it. If you have never had iptv before I guess you wouldn't be familiar with this.
But as you said yes there are other services out there but they don't have as much content or they can be as much as cable. But again I guess a lot of people are having this freezing and buffering issues, but there are literally 1000's that aren't. It's hard to blame the server when it only seems like it a selection of people having these issues. Yes I admit freezing and buffering does happen but I only get that when they are working on the server. I honestly think that a lot of people's ISP providers are overloaded and that is where a lot of the issues come in. Reading a lot of the freezing and buffering issues it seems to be when its prime time when everyone is using the Internet.
Also unfortunately many iptv providers do have to do a time limit or people will re-stream or leave there box on non stop even when they aren't watching it... My parents live down south and there cable is from a legit iptv cable provider and it will time out after a certain amount of hours. That saves them bandwidth from again in people who forget to turn off there boxes. So if actual iptv providers are doing it then I don't see an issue with nfps doing it. It's called Prims TV and they do time out your box so yes there are actual legit cable TV providers doing it. If you have never had iptv before I guess you wouldn't be familiar with this.
But as you said yes there are other services out there but they don't have as much content or they can be as much as cable. But again I guess a lot of people are having this freezing and buffering issues, but there are literally 1000's that aren't. It's hard to blame the server when it only seems like it a selection of people having these issues. Yes I admit freezing and buffering does happen but I only get that when they are working on the server. I honestly think that a lot of people's ISP providers are overloaded and that is where a lot of the issues come in. Reading a lot of the freezing and buffering issues it seems to be when its prime time when everyone is using the Internet.
Hi tuxen actually a few iptv providers are doing this unfortunately, so it's not only NFPS.
Yeah they need to change that for sure it sucks watching sporting events that are 3 to 4 hours long and have it freeze on a key play is bad! Good example was the fight this weekend I started the prelims at 6 pacific and had it freeze at 8 good thing it wasn't during prime time or I would have burnt the village down and blamed little Johnny!
Overall service has been good some minor issues during upgrades but they get worked out eventually. I will say this I for one do not rely on this as my primary service although I have friends I have setup and they have learned when there is issues to use KODI or something else and then go back to live TV once things start working better I guess it all comes down to expectations.
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I use kodi so far my iptv has been good with the exception of when the portal address changed,,then i researched and found the solution. the only thing i suggest the forum do is remove the old sticky's so there is no confusion on setting it up. but otherwise its a great bargain.
Some channels freeze more than others, but most of the time it works pretty good for me. The sound should be upgraded as well as the picture quality. After they changed the login with password I waited a day or to so the would work out the issues. Since I have Netflix FTA & others downtime which is not very often is no big deal.
hi pod
I have iptv from a provider over here and there is no cutoff even the free public hd channels does not cutoff anything, one of my friends has direct tv, another sky there is no cutoff, iplayer and ustvnow is another example and they are free. furthermore I asked 4 and sampled 2 iptv providers at the same price range 2-5 bucks more a month, none of them had cutoff's. another point now you brought it up, all their channels worked, they had a channel status page and I got reply's about testing their service and other questions from their staff within 1-2 hours as opposed to days if you are even lucky to get an answer from nfps. I even kept one of them shh. and I am still going to keep nfps because i like the channel lineup better and i prefer US channels over my localized versions. also i do not want to jump from provider to provider especially from one i feel a certain loyalty to.
because your parents down south have cutoff with 1(!) odd provider that cant be googled (unless you mean the prism tv that cl owns) does not justify anything?! well maybe for you. but I bet your parents can watch movies longer than 2 hours without having to restart the channel at the movie climax, or sports events. I also think you too restart the channels or watch tv more than 2 hours at the time switching channels so what good does 2 hours do if people restart the channel 4 times during an evening/day, heck I even restart it if I fall asleep and wake up again no matter if its day or night.
it is no way personal pod, I am not denying what you are saying with your parents provider, just so you do not misunderstand. but the whole it can be justified because another ones does it is the stuff I hate sorry. here is a hypothetical question; if your 10 years old son friend at the same age where allowed to stay out till 4 o'clock in the morning, does it justify your son being out so late too? although the kid will likely try to do just that.
the reason some suggest the short timeout is not bandwidth but security if some where to steal the streams. but if you were to make a addon the token would expire the moment a user using the addon changes a channel making it impossible for a addon maintainer to maintain the addon. besides that, it is a non existent problem. I could understand if they had a real security problem like when 300 users could jump on 1 mac address. as you can see in the other thread where we did not know what was going on leaving us to guess, and me thinking maybe it was a new bt keyboard because it had the same standby time out so when it disconnected with a message on the screen it timed with the video freezing lol. they are also very fast to ban/flag peoples ip address even though I did nothing that broke the rules. 2, 8, or no limit, i do not think the security could be more tight, even if someone managed to find a hole they would have the exact same service with the exact same 2 hour timeout as paying members, where is the fairness and logic in that.
back in april 2015 just before they went paid they listened to their users and set the timeout up to 8 hours, then a half year in they set it back to 2 hours without announcing anything and they do not seem to follow what's going on the official forum, I find that a bit dodgy too, again if it where bandwidth they just got rid of 1000's of stalker clones and fake services. if its security it is non existent. again we can only guess because nfps are silent. which also means these guessing posts, argumentations, and rantings lol yeah i am sorry; are meaningless.
I am not saying that I am leaving but the worst thing is, by ignoring users people only have their renewal left as a voice. :/
and far from all is bad, i love the new HD channels (and the sd ones for that matter), have no buffering, but the 2 hour time drags it down from 9 to 5-6 out of 10. if they tightened their helmets and got in the game with their users or least informed us about things like this and when and why it would take a lot of grumpiness out, and the score would rise significantly for me that is.
sorry for the rant it turned into so fast. i am not angry just old lol. all the best to the iptvtalk community.
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