Infomir BLOCKING portals

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How could this affect sellers in the future?

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this already on the forums but apparently this was officially announced on 12/20/18

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https://www.infomir.eu/eng/press-center/news/201-infomir-protects-the-copyright/

* Post #33 will have the 'NoBlock' file versions.
The files can be found thru a file host site which is shown at the very bottom of that post #33
 
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This started with infomir sometime ago. I saw it coming and saw it started many months ago.
It was about the same time they dropped Stalker Middleware and replaced it with the new Ministra Middleware.
They also at the time, posted documentation on their website talking about this and asking the public to report any infringements.
It was also about the same time that they removed their software releases from wikipedia, or at least moved them.

Stalker became so very popular over time and I guess infomir decided they did not want to be a known party any longer,. And with the 'new' laws in place in Europe, it became clear what and why this was happening.
:eek:
 
This started with infomir sometime ago

Thank you

Any ideas on a Linux based box that isn't Android or Chinese?
I just want a simple box that only has that function. I sell a lot of boxes to older ppl and they wouldn't need all of those Android festures.


are you currently watching tv?
Maybe get the opinion from other sellers and not a sarcastic answer.
 
are you currently watching tv?

This may apply more to VOD items.

It may be a settings problem, but I have MAC account for testing(p2 NFPS), and currently using with stbemu pro.
Login and TV access is OK.
VOD selection returns "Server Unavailable".

*Note: By using local playlist from template, VOD access is OK.

Just FYI
/kens
 
Youre right, I should rephrased my question:

As a reseller that thinks of his long term customers should I be worry about 50 of my customers wanting a refund because their mag suddenly stop working?

Maybe get the opinion from other sellers and not a sarcastic answer
maybe buy a box that doesn't cave in and scream the sky is falling
as a seller you have more to worry about than disgruntled customers
 
This may apply more to VOD items.

It may be a settings problem, but I have MAC account for testing(p2 NFPS), and currently using with stbemu pro.
Login and TV access is OK.
VOD selection returns "Server Unavailable".

*Note: By using local playlist from template, VOD access is OK.

Just FYI
/kens
that makes sense
good thing I don't use stalker(stbemu) anymore
lots of services have been dropping vod for the past year now (I read on other sites..lol)
 
Thank you

Any ideas on a Linux based box that isn't Android or Chinese?
I just want a simple box that only has that function. I sell a lot of boxes to older ppl and they wouldn't need all of those Android festures.

Most, if not all, emulate the Stalker Middleware or carry the Stalker Middleware onboard (like I said, Stalker became very popular as a Middleware) :eek:
They may call it something else and the outer looks and functions may be different, but it is an emulation of Stalker.
DreamOnLine or MyTVOnline or Buzztv are some examples.
Most all carry the Android OS with a linux kernel.
 
Most, if not all, emulate the Stalker Middleware or carry the Stalker Middleware onboard (like I said, Stalker became very popular as a Middleware) :eek:
They may call it something else and the outer looks and functions may be different, but it is an emulation of Stalker.
DreamOnLine or MyTVOnline or Buzztv are some examples.
Most all carry the Android OS with a linux kernel.

yes, new middleware is android based now so its easy to block portals, linux had security holes.
 
c/p

Infomir, the manufacturer of the popular MAG range of set-top boxes, says it will block the portals of suspected copyright-infringing IPTV providers following complaints from copyright holders. While MAG devices are used to access plenty of legal services, the news will come as a blow to large numbers of customers who use the very capable devices to access unauthorized platforms.

Over the past couple of years, unauthorized IPTV services have been making their presence known in the ‘pirate’ TV space.

As recently reported, pirate IPTV services are accessed by 5.5% of US and Canadian households. The range of content is phenomenal, with few – if any – official entertainment companies in a position to compete.

Such services are typically accessed via set-top boxes, from ubiquitous Android-based platforms through to dedicated IPTV hardware. None of these devices are designed to be infringing but with the addition of third-party services, they can be transformed into piracy powerhouses.

For those looking for a premium IPTV experience, the MAG box range from Ukraine-based Infomir are the tools of choice. The compact devices are used by thousands of consumers to access legitimate content via a beautiful interface but like any such hardware, these boxes can also be used to access infringing streams.

Infomir has understandably distanced itself from this kind of illicit consumption but until now doesn’t appear to have interfered with the choices of its customers. Moving forward, however, it’s clear that will change.

“Infomir is an international company operating in over 150 countries globally. As a manufacturer of multimedia devices, we are subject to copyright and related rights legislation, which we respect and adhere to,” the company says.

“Upon receiving complaints from a copyright holder, Infomir is obliged to restrict access from its devices to any portal suspected of copyright infringement. The restriction will be maintained until the issue with the copyright holder is resolved.”

IPTV services (both legal and less so) often supply a URL which enables MAG and similar devices to access their ‘portal’. These are entered into the device’s setup page, with the box typically being authorized at the provider’s end by verifying its MAC address against a pre-registered one.

However, Infomir appears able to prevent certain portal URLs from being accessed via its set-top devices and there are some unconfirmed reports online which indicate this may be happening already.

TorrentFreak spoke with Infomir to find out more about this development. Will the company block portals following straightforward copyright complaints, for example, or is a court order required?

“The complaints need not be necessarily backed up by a court order. The form and contents of a copyright complaint must conform to the DMCA requirements,” Infomir Legal Counsel Vladislav Larionov informs TF.

“Our policy is to comply with the EU and US legislation on copyright and take into account best practices in the area of handling of copyright infringement reports. In particular, we only process the reports of copyright infringement that contain all the elements of notification envisaged by the DMCA.”

Some IPTV providers not only provide access to ‘pirate’ streams but also other content that has the potential to be non-infringing, depending on a users’ circumstances. For instance, there could be questions raised over legality when the holder of a UK TV license only accesses BBC One and similar channels via an IPTV service.

Speaking in more general terms, TF asked Infomir if over-blocking is a concern. The company told us that they require detailed complaints from rightsholders to block portals and they give services that are blocked the right to file a counter-complaint.

“We respect the rights of legitimate service providers, and we are concerned that such service providers might be reported by mistake or due to misidentification. That is why we request that copyright infringement reports submitted to us comply with the DMCA and contain a statement under penalty of perjury that the report is true and accurate,” Larionov explains.

“We also review each copyright infringement report to prevent false or abusive ones. Finally, we provide every service provider with a possibility to oppose a copyright infringement report. In case there is a dispute between a copyright holder and a service provider, we will request a court order to maintain access restriction to a portal.”

While copyright holders who file for blocking injunctions in court can be identified fairly easily, discovering who has filed a complaint with Infomir is less straightforward. The company told TF that it cannot provide information on who has requested a block other than to say it is mostly “big copyright holders, anti-piracy associations, and companies that provide copyright management and protection services.”

Finally, it’s not entirely clear how MAG devices are prevented from accessing portal URLs and Infomir informs TF that it won’t provide that information as it might “downgrade” its “access restriction system”. There is already some speculation on specialist forums that firmware updates may be responsible but no clear confirmation is currently available.
 
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It would seem to me the only way they can block urls is through firmware updates. I might be wrong on this but as a precaution ive turned off auto update!

Infomir would receive an order to block services A, B & C, as they have been disseminating copyrighted material without permission.
A, B & C, use Infomir's Stalker based IPTV backends, that can be accessed by Infomir, for maintenance and updates.
Infomir would have a method to limit or restrict service to A, B & C, if, for example, if they did not pay the monthly or yearly subscription for the service.
Therefore, most likely, there are probably more intricate control methods available, that could, for example, turn off VOD services, etc.

Just my suspicion.
/kens