i have tried it many ways but i cant seem to get it ,,there are a lot of smart people here do you think you explain how to use a dvd recoder to record off the mag 254 ,,,i like to know how to set up and record from the mag254 to the dvd recorder from /or to the tv ,,thats all i ask then i would be a happy man ,,once i can accomplish this i can get rid of my cable company who is giving me a hard time..even a picture ,,please can some one help ,,thank you all..