Hi all I'm what you would call an old fart. Back before Nagra 3 I had boxes set up for friends and family... good times. Since then I have been like a lot of "testers" and waited for a fix so I could have free TV. I finally gave up waiting when I found I could use equipment I already had(PC) and free software to connect to IPTV services from IKS66. I understand that the service is not perfect and is constantly developing counter measures to defeat charlies security. So I don't get too upset if the service suddenly stops working I know that people are working to restore it. One thing that does get my goat a little is when there is a change made in how the service is delivered, a fix is posted and I can't make it work. I am talking about the recent requirement to provide serial no. and such. I can get the IPTV Stalker on to work but not the PVR Client. I followed Hank Ventures' guide with all of the Isengard releases and the latest release of Jasper IPTV Stalker works great, east to set up and the channels work reasonably well for such an immature system. But dang it I want my guide! From what I have read others are in the same shape they too can't get the PVR Stalker client to work. I wasn't able to tell from the posts from those that failed what device they were using or what software the were using. This goes for most of the posts from those who got the PVR client to work. As a result I have no clue if the failures are related to specific device software combinations or what. If anyone has a clue as to why people who can set up the IPTV Stalker and yet cannot do so with the PVR Stalker client please share your thoughts. Without a guide the service loses a lot of it's appeal. My system is an Intell NUC with 2830 chipset and as I said I tried Kodi 15-16.